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Jenn aSide
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Posted - 2014.12.11 13:13:15 -
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Thera (like all of EVE) is 'pve friendly' if YOU put some thought into it. PVE in Thera will consist of organized groups that can both farm AND defend themselves.
Speaking for real PVE jocks in this game (who give no Fs about someone tryin to pvp us), please ignore the whiny "wahhh, people won't let me solo PVE in peace" loners who don't get what game they are playing. |
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:20:52 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Another "agenda point" of yours.
Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.
Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?
No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there. Because it really doesn't.
It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game 
Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:15:46 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here
I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?
Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.
Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts...
rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless. |
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:33:04 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.
So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless!
OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail?
Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain.
Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise.
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:22:28 -
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It goes to show that some people will use any excuse imaginable to hide their personal failures.
To date I've lost exactly 2 cheap PVE firgates in Thera, mean while i've made some nice pocket change using nothing but the aforementioned cheap frigs (this post brought to you by a sub paid for with a plex that itself was paid for using nothing but Thera generated income).
Just because you can't figure out how to pve in Thera doesn't make Thera 'unfriendly' to PVE. |
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Posted - 2014.12.17 14:29:30 -
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tiberiusric wrote:Joseph Penton wrote:Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area! its the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done. Seriously what did they expect to happen.
They expected people to figure it out (and some of us already have).
There are these new inventions called "nullified ships" that ignore bubbles making getting in to Thera easy as pie. once in you can set a clone their and the market is sufficient to supply you with cheap pve ships. You can check any public killboard for my own Thera ships.
CCP shouldn't have to play the game for you. |
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Posted - 2014.12.17 16:59:52 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
Oxymorons everywhere
Damn it Ramona, i keep having to fix yer posts!!!!
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:14:08 -
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Anslo wrote:tbh Thera so far seems kinda...pointless.
It's a gold mine. People just don't realize it yet. Like I said, i've only died twice in there so far and I've pulled some good isk out of it.
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:29:22 -
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Imo it's never a good idea to have to make so many special rules to get people to do something. Interdiction bubbles are a part of null/WH life. They are easy to avoid and even help an attacker (you know that hic is going no where when his bubble is up, so bring friends and you got a guaranteed kill.
The solution to bubble camps is "kill the bubblers", not "ccp please don't let them bubble me". It took me 2 tries to get into Thera but I made it, and already Thera-Centric groups are forming. Just last night I joined a pick up anomaly farming group, i flew a Drake and though we got blobbed i made it out alive and with some loot.
Thera is just like EVE in that it is (and only is) what you make of it. |
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Posted - 2014.12.17 17:35:18 -
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Anslo wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Imo it's never a good idea to have to make so many special rules to get people to do something. Interdiction bubbles are a part of null/WH life. They are easy to avoid and even help an attacker (you know that hic is going no where when his bubble is up, so bring friends and you got a guaranteed kill. Neither are dockable stations but hey there they are. Thera isn't your normal nul/WH friend. It's 3spooky5me. Quote:The solution to bubble camps is "kill the bubblers", not "ccp please don't let them bubble me". It took me 2 tries to get into Thera but I made it, and already Thera-Centric groups are forming. Just last night I joined a pick up anomaly farming group, i flew a Drake and though we got blobbed i made it out alive and with some loot. I, too, always fly fit to kill a kitey bubbler and his friends. And I, too, bring the perfect fleet to counter what may be on the other side of a gate and/or hole in every situation. Quote:Thera is just like EVE in that it is (and only is) what you make of it. Oi vey.
What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something. It's fine that you don't like Thera, but I think it's fine, I'm kaing isk out of it and having fun while not dying too much (at least till my luck runs out).
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Posted - 2014.12.17 18:08:27 -
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Anslo wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something. No, I'm bringing up points I feel make Thera a bit potato that if addressed somehow, someway, might make it more attractive to people than hurr durr killerrythang nerds. Eve has casuals too. Would be nice if they got something out of it.
That's so "think of the children".
I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'.
Also *you're
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How much did you make in how much time anyway? I haven't seen any calculated comparisons to other sources so I'm kinda curious. If it's just basic sleeper loot then it can't be that much right? Unless you found one of those Central Archiver Cerebrums. Then uh....welp.
I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet.
Again, if you have to dumb down Thera to make it more attractive when there are already people in Thera making it work, that's misguided. You don't need a bubble-less Thera, you need less risk averse players. |
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Posted - 2014.12.22 06:22:52 -
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Alicia Aishai wrote:
I am a bit with Anslo on this one. I see wild claims from Jenn aSide about making a lot of PVE isk in Thera but not a shred of evidence supporting it.
Understand that everyone has its own money making secret but it would be more convincing if at least we were told generally how so much ISK are made with a "cheap PVE frig"?
I said I lost 2 frigs, I didn't say I used those frigs (Probes) exclusivley to make isk, now did I? You can go to any public kill board and see my (now 3) deaths in Thera (2 probes, 1 Drake). Thera has class 3/4 level content, not too hard for an organized fleet to clear anomalies and fight off the unorganized nubs who try to kill you. It's all fun and games till freaking CFC shows up.
The whole point is to demonstrate that some of us (actually, many of us, most don't post on the forums) aren't crippled by fear and risk aversion in a video game where nothing real (except time) can be lost.
Have you even tried the plentiful anoms and sigs in Thera before you've come to the conclusions you have? Sure it's easier elsewhere, the point here is to show that it's possible even against opposition
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Rating -> doubtful in cheap PVE frig and how doing is it in Thera different from any other WH?
Exploring -> maybe but then same question than above. If it is just doing the same as normal WH then why do it in Thera with more hostiles around while there are tons of WH empty 90% of the time.
Mining -> unlikely...
Why do it in Thera? Because this is a video game and some of us aren't scared to damn death of a challenge (or imaginary loss)? |
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Posted - 2014.12.22 15:31:19 -
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Signal11th wrote:I have to agree with Jenn on this one, Thera this or Thera that.... It doesn't even matter..Thera isn't there for you to like it it's just there.
If you don't like it well then tough too bad go somewhere else in the game, CCP doesn't owe you anything in regards to this system, it's there and that's all there is to it. You make of it like the rest of the game allows you to do.
The problem is that so people are so self-centered that they think that CCP exists to please THEM (and them alone). So when CCP introduces something and they end up not liking it, instead of just going and playing somewhere they do like, they ***** about it and try to get CCP to modify it to fit them.
It happened with Incursions. I remember on dude on thos forum who damn near jumped through his screen because you can't solo incursion sites and that's wrong because why should he have to play with other people in an MMO lol. Some still do the same with null sec (I can't conquer a system solo or with my 10 man corp therefore null is broken).
Not saying that everyone who has an opinion about Thera is like that....but most are like that.
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I've been there didn't think much of it and am now back to my usual stuff. I don't need CCP to spoon feed me stuff like in other games and tbh I get alarmed everytime the game gets altered just because it seems the vast majority of players either seem to lazy or stupid to figure stuff out.
Why on earth would you expcet to enter a wormhole system and be allowed to rat without any hassle from anyone else? You can't in any other wormhole system unless you are prepared. Personally as I've mentioned before I'm happy Thera is there because it attracts egits like a moth to a flame and thats egits I don't have to deal with so it's a thumbs up from me!
People expect to be left alone because that's what they want and somehow they live in a world where what they want actually matters lol. I'd like to visit that world someday, i just can't find it because I live in the real world lol.
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